Recommending Lesbian Protagonist Games List (My Version)

[Jaike]

How does this format help to avoid unwanted content? I've used it for a few of my favourites (and 1 game I don't like).

A Drow's Life

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A Summer's End - Hong Kong, 1986

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Aisling and the Tavern of Elves

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Crimson Veil

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Ladykiller in a Bind

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Left Hand Magic

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Salome's Kiss

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Teen Zombie in Your Cabin

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The Misadventures of The Elven Paladin

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This isn't something that's useful for the OP tho, it's too long and time consuming.


I just hate it whenever I go to a lesbian protagonist game's topic and the first page is full with moronic users that whine it's lesbian, or wish it wasn't lesbian. I don't understand why their crap comments aren't removed as offtopic.

So, I'm curious how useful this format is:

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Because it wasn't very thought out, honestly...

How I structured "only lesbian? lesbian focus? is sex with men completely avoidable? how much lesbian content?" seems redundant, and what people really want to know is if the FF content is the only content, most content, half the content, minor content, and how hard it is to avoid FM, and maybe what the protagonist's canonical orientation is (some readers here may prefer a purely lesbian protagonist over a bi or pan female protagonist... and game where the FF content is forcing a straight female protagonist into FF is... like weird?). If it has unavoidable FM on all routes, it shouldn't be recommended here. So "is sex with men completely avoidable?" was a kinda stupid way to put it.

So, what do you think about changing it to:

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[lnomsim]

So, I'm curious how useful this format is:

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Because it wasn't very thought out, honestly...

How I structured "only lesbian? lesbian focus? is sex with men completely avoidable? how much lesbian content?" seems redundant, and what people really want to know is if the FF content is the only content, most content, half the content, minor content, and how hard it is to avoid FM, and maybe what the protagonist's canonical orientation is (some readers here may prefer a purely lesbian protagonist over a bi or pan female protagonist... and game where the FF content is forcing a straight female protagonist into FF is... like weird?). If it has unavoidable FM on all routes, it shouldn't be recommended here. So "is sex with men completely avoidable?" was a kinda stupid way to put it.

So, what do you think about changing it to:

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Honestly, I think the first format is good.
A lot of games with lesbian content have het content too, so knowing in detail what to expect is good.
And I don't think nowing the protagonist orientation is important.

Games here are for lesbian protagonist, so either she is actually bi, pan, curious is irrelevant. If she's purely heterosexual, then the game won't be listed here. And she's bi or whatever else, what actually matter is if M/F content is avoidable and how much there is.

And take a game like Naughty Lyanna, how would you define her sexuality? In the first season, she's bi, but het content can be completely avoided. In the second season, she can be full lesbian (to the point she clearly states she has no interest in men, same for some other characters) and still tease men.

 

[daviprish1]

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has option to play as female and bang other girls. Played a little, nice, but for now barebones without mods.

 

[Moshiko.atrftb]

I've also seen the odd exception that proves the rule - e.g. people wanting a female version of Max in Max The Elf, because that actually draws closer to being for "basic guys" in that genre, but is also closer for female protag fans.

Nah, it's just that Max makes them question their sexuality and they simply can't handle that. I mean damn even I'm a little straight for that twink.

Games here are for lesbian protagonist, so either she is actually bi, pan, curious is irrelevant. If she's purely heterosexual, then the game won't be listed here. And she's bi or whatever else, what actually matter is if M/F content is avoidable and how much there is.

Well, there were several rants on this thread about this exact topic. For some people it's a real turn off if mc talks about a man they like, or liking men in general.

Also, Naughty Lyanna is an exception, and it's details can be simply put in brackets next to orientation.

 

[xxxlegitnoobswag]

Let's be honest, there's never going to be a way to categorize the list that satisfies everyone. For example, I'm fine with trans women but others don't care for it. Hell, some get obsessed in a fetishized way and others get obsessed in a pissy, stand-offish way. Lock those two in a thread together and watch the mods weep! It's much better to just have (somewhat) broad, overall categories and individuals self-select from there. The current criteria are fine, tighter than the lesbian tag on its own and anything more specific can probably be found out in the games' individual threads themselves.

My preferred method is to go by developers first. Find someone who does it right and follow their work output religiously. Then again it's not very good since I've only got

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We're starving out here

 

[The Celtic fan]

Let's be honest, there's never going to be a way to categorize the list that satisfies everyone. For example, I'm fine with trans women but others don't care for it. Hell, some get obsessed in a fetishized way and others get obsessed in a pissy, stand-offish way. Lock those two in a thread together and watch the mods weep! It's much better to just have (somewhat) broad, overall categories and individuals self-select from there. The current criteria are fine, tighter than the lesbian tag on its own and anything more specific can probably be found out in the games' individual threads themselves.

My preferred method is to go by developers first. Find someone who does it right and follow their work output religiously. Then again it's not very good since I've only got

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We're starving out here

categorizing is not about recommending series, but just describing their content a little better, each person chooses what appeals to them the most.

In the case that you put, transwomen is not put as something negative or positive, it is simply mentioned so that those who do not like it simply know at once that maybe they will not like that game, and those who are looking for that kind of games can find them more easily.

Well, that's more or less how I think about it

My preferred method is to go by developers first. Find someone who does it right and follow their work output religiously. Then again it's not very good since I've only got

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and

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We're starving out here

x2 I would also put ebi-hime (although their novels are almost always kinetic), but sadly there are still very few devs, and unfortunately they don't always release yuri games.

Unfortunately, it is still not enough to satisfy the hunger.

 

[Mapfap303]

We could start by doing some basic categorizing at first and than doing some more thorough describing
for example
1. Games that are focused only on yuri like Kindred Spirits on the Roof or Missy
2. Game that have male and female MC but lesbian route is ''distinguished'' like for example Mythos where chosing female MC will make game lesbian only or Toro 7 where you can choose between straight female or lesbian female MC
3. Could be for games that have female MC with choices that have decent enough lesbian content like Rise of the White Flower for example
4. Is like 3 but game is obvious cock fest with only a handful of lesbian scenes

 

[IM6]

I'm going to make a Google Sheet for this. My analytical/categorical self can't take it anymore.

Did it:

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There's probably some pieces missing or things someone might want that someone else might not. I made it fully accessible/editable and pre-populated with Cboy's existing list details (except all 2D are Anime and 3D are DAZ... since there's no delineation in OP). But I feel like this covers a lot.

Feel free to update data. This can be as good or not good as anyone updating it. I updated my own game (Erisa's Summer) as an example.
Please don't change columns or validation rules. If you want to argue a change, have it as a discussion here, please.

 

[xxxlegitnoobswag]

I'm going to make a Google Sheet for this. My analytical/categorical self can't take it anymore.

Neat! Not sure how much I can add because I have real problem of actually following through to- hell, even one ending let alone all of them. Still, I'll slap in what I can.

For column changes; "Is the Protagonist interested in men, women, or both?" is a bit odd. For example, Toro 7 lets the player pick their character's gender and sexuality right at the start and some (I wanna say The Hero's Journey?) let your character choose over the course of the game. So is the prompt going by maximum or minimum degree of options? Like, are we looking for how many orientation options it has overall or how specifically lesbian the player can make it?

 

[Beggarman]

You forgot asking to add futa.

Not entirely. I think it is a frequent request, but is a bit different from the main Basic OmniGame Pipeline, and it does kinda depend on who they're asking to be a futa and why. At best, I think it's something that may get raised earlier on, but then shaved back off at the "remove the gay stuff" part of the tree.

It doesn't just come to people not understanding others might have different tastes, but some are also, and very unfortunately unable to differenciate fiction from reality, and think their tastes fetishes should be a reflection of what hey like or dislike in real life.

And in extension to that, feels like they should be able to self insert in the stories/games.

RWBY is a perfect example of that

I'd say kinda, but I think there's a few parts to it. Some absolutely cannot self-insert, sure, but I also see the appeal in self-inserting, especially if the world is strong. However, a lot of self-insert stories on the Basic side tend to be... just shit? Like, the story is just a vehicle for porn with recognisable characters, it's not about actually putting you in the world. It's easier to ask the strong storywriter with a quieter audience to cater to them, instead of asking the person who does cater to them to write better. But they can still get fucked for trying to pull content away from underserved audiences.

Let's be honest, there's never going to be a way to categorize the list that satisfies everyone.

Also... yeah, that's basically my thought, especially with regards to trans characters. I was thinking of striking a balance between the tediousness of putting in too much data or arguing about categories vs still having a useful tell for what's token and what's serious.
That said...

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This does look like a good starting point, although maybe a bit heavy on the details. But hey, having it open to edit does lift some of that burden.

 

[IM6]

Neat! Not sure how much I can add because I have real problem of actually following through to- hell, even one ending let alone all of them. Still, I'll slap in what I can.

For column changes; "Is the Protagonist interested in men, women, or both?" is a bit odd. For example, Toro 7 lets the player pick their character's gender and sexuality right at the start and some (I wanna say The Hero's Journey?) let your character choose over the course of the game. So is the prompt going by maximum or minimum degree of options? Like, are we looking for how many orientation options it has overall or how specifically lesbian the player can make it?

It's probably overkill in these situations. As a reader/user of the list, what would you prefer to see?
You'd probably put both since you can pursue either. Other columns tell you you can play a full lesbian route.

This does look like a good starting point, although maybe a bit heavy on the details. But hey, having it open to edit does lift some of that burden.

If you fill something in and don't put in a detail, someone else is free to do it. The key parts are up front.

 

[Beggarman]

If you fill something in and don't put in a detail, someone else is free to do it. They key parts are up front.

Yep, already had a bit of a nose through and put in some details for games that I've got experience with. Only thing I can think of that's lacking is it's not easy to tell if some of the later columns have been checked and left blank vs not checked, though a lot of that stuff can just be considered a bonus I guess.

 

[lnomsim]

I noticed a lot of games aren't on the site anymore.

 

[Moshiko.atrftb]

I'm going to make a Google Sheet for this. My analytical/categorical self can't take it anymore.

Did it:

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There's probably some pieces missing or things someone might want that someone else might not. I made it fully accessible/editable and pre-populated with Cboy's existing list details (except all 2D are Anime and 3D are DAZ... since there's no delineation in OP). But I feel like this covers a lot.

Feel free to update data. This can be as good or not good as anyone updating it. I updated my own game (Erisa's Summer) as an example.
Please don't change columns or validation rules. If you want to argue a change, have it as a discussion here, please.

Holly shit, people like you are the reason anything gets done in this world.

Added Hardcoded, filled out Actual Roommates, and you can be sure I'll contribute whenever I play a new game.

Just a suggestion but I would add "2d (pixel art)" for game art, and "Player Decides" for protagonist's sexuality.

 

[IM6]

Holly shit, people like you are the reason anything gets done in this world.

Added Hardcoded, filled out Actual Roommates, and you can be sure I'll contribute whenever I play a new game.

Just a suggestion but I would add "2d (pixel art)" for game art, and "Player Decides" for protagonist's sexuality.

I'd rather these columns show the gamut of options rather than whether you can pick them. Then you can filter on these to see if it matches your taste. Maybe I'll add a column that says whether or not you make that choice (just like on mc sex)

And thanks for the kind words. If I could get Daz scenes or writing done nearly so quickly in such little time, I'd be way further on my game by now!

 

[The Celtic fan]

I'm going to make a Google Sheet for this. My analytical/categorical self can't take it anymore.

Did it:

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There's probably some pieces missing or things someone might want that someone else might not. I made it fully accessible/editable and pre-populated with Cboy's existing list details (except all 2D are Anime and 3D are DAZ... since there's no delineation in OP). But I feel like this covers a lot.

Feel free to update data. This can be as good or not good as anyone updating it. I updated my own game (Erisa's Summer) as an example.
Please don't change columns or validation rules. If you want to argue a change, have it as a discussion here, please.

god you are an idol, thank you very much, I will help by filling some of them.

 

[The Celtic fan]

I'm going to make a Google Sheet for this. My analytical/categorical self can't take it anymore.

Did it:

You must be registered to see the links

There's probably some pieces missing or things someone might want that someone else might not. I made it fully accessible/editable and pre-populated with Cboy's existing list details (except all 2D are Anime and 3D are DAZ... since there's no delineation in OP). But I feel like this covers a lot.

Feel free to update data. This can be as good or not good as anyone updating it. I updated my own game (Erisa's Summer) as an example.
Please don't change columns or validation rules. If you want to argue a change, have it as a discussion here, please.

a question in games where scenes with men are “skipped” i.e. it is implied that they happen, but we don't see them because we skip them with a mode (like some dump koala games) what would we put?

that are easily avoidable and then we put in comments that even if they are avoided they still happen in the background.

Or would we put that it is mandatory? since the story does not make sense when they are skipped, and in comments we put that even if they are mandatory, we can avoid seeing them.

 

[CboyC95]

Is there a problem with the games listed?

 

[GokutheG]

Is there a problem with the games listed?

I think people just want more detail on the games. This thread is great.

 

[The Celtic fan]

Is there a problem with the games listed?

the thread is great it would be just something complementary for people who want to see more details of the games to facilitate their search